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Azahari Dead?


I just got this breaking news from MetroTV, Indonesia’s leading television station on news. They reported that 88-Detachments have raided Dr. Azahari’s hideout locate in Batu, Malang, Jawa Timur, Indonesia this afternoon and got caught in a gun fight. One police is hurt.

They then blown the house and Azahari is predicted dead. Somehow I smell something fishy about it here. The police are hunting down this terrorist for so long and finaly are now able to pin him down. I assume that when they raid the house, they already surrounded the location before the final action.

The question is, is it necessary to blow the house that ends on death to Dr. Azahari, the key player to many Indonesian bombings including the Bali bombing? If the police can catch him alive, I’m pretty sure the rest of the gang will be easy to locate and thus ending the terrorist cell operation in Indonesia.

Well that is probably what our police will do if there is Dr. Azahari in the first place. After some incident (including the runaway Al Farouq), I come to realize, is this so-called terrorist cell really exists or is it just a ploy to discredit certain party (or certain religion)? I can’t draw any conclusions for the mean time due to the lack of the data I have. Will blog about this later.

update: apparently Azahari blown himself, not blown by the police.

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OOT aja deh :
maafin kalo ada salah - salah ketik ya Oz :D
maaf lahir bathin :)

hmmm… I think make him ‘dead’ is the easiest way to stop the ‘case’.

Heeii, tadi aku juga liat di metroTV tuh!!
Iya, gak jelas yah?!
Tapi sepengetahuanku, pernyataannya baru “diduga” tewas deh..
CMIIW
Bagi gw sendiri, malah lebih gak jelas lagi apa emang si Azahari itu dalang bom Bali..

::tikabanget::

KLo pun meledakkan diri, harusnya masih ada penyelidikan forensik kan untuk memastikan korban ..

*gag liat tivi, males*

Mohon maaf lahir batin. Sori telat. Btw, gw juga mosting sama tuh. Hehehehe…

007 1/2 belum mati….

masak pemeran utama mati sih ? itu pasti stuntmannya…

Yaa ini KETOPRAK jaman baru deh keliatannya

Dan kalau ini mau dimatikan karena skenarionya sudah sampai tahap ini :) jadi udah saatnya tokoh yang bagi saya FIKTIP di OFF khan :)

Call me crazy or perhaps I read to many detective books and read/watch sci-fi. Here’s my question. Do we really have a positive ID that he is the right person? A blown up suspect is the worst case since we can’t properly ID him. I read on the news that the police will check the DNA. And what should we compare it to? Do we have a previous sample? Call me Holmes if I’m right but I hope I’m wrong.

mohon maaf lahir batin dulu deh….
semudah itukah berakhir nyawa yg katanya dalang bom bali…
nggak seru…. kalo ibarat nya sebuah filem..penonton pasti kecewa…
udah plotnya nggak jelas.. semuanya blur..
eh tau tau bandit nya mati gitu aja??
mungkin ada sekuel kedua..dimana. si doktor ini sebenernya belom mati….

@Alarix: iya maapin saya juga :)

@agusset: why do you use apostrop for those words? :p

@tika: Kalo ga salah polri tuh baru mengidentifikasi mayatnya hari ini deh, dan dari kemaren Kapolri sudah mengklaim bahwa Azahari sudah tewas.

@toni: tul tul :)

@ricorea: Oh iya, gw juga :)

@rendy: Haha, komentarnya smart tuch

@jauhari: kira - kira skenario selanjutnya gimana mas? Al Farouq kan juga udah kabur (atau setidaknya ceritanya gitu)

@Eric: well, our government (with the help of some ‘helpers’) will try to find an excuse out of this. The most possible way is that they will claim that they already have the comparative DNA before hand.

yak kita tumpas semua terrorist2 itu! ugh.. sebal…

Menurut gw yah, Polri itu terlalu banyak main akting terlalu banyak sandiwara..coba ada yang berani gak tv ngeliatin wajah sang Azahari itu? klo bisa hebat baner deh TV2, kalo enggak ada berarti masih ada permainan dibalik itu semua.. gw merasa ada yang janggal…

i’m no one…
just a small citizen looking for some good life…
shall it be azahari or udin or whoever…
doens’t matter as long as those bombings’ history…
but is it?
what’s good if azahari’s dead but the bombings’re still on???

I agreed with Seven…

@amalia: Yeah, I’m also pissed off by those damn unambombers…

@Mala: Only time will tell… sayang sih ya, badan intelijen Indonesia engga punya policy kayak CIA yang mempublikasikan dokumen rahasia mereka untuk umum 50 tahun setelah kejadian. Masih ada beberapa yang tidak dibeberkan, salah satunya adalah campur tangan CIA dalam kejatuhan Soekarno. Darn they are powerful…

@seven: The police said that there’s no other genius that could build bomb as good as Azahari, so I think that’s something.

I was passing by someone who was reading the newspaper that the wife of Azahari just recently commented to say she accepted the fact that he is dead.

*looks up* Wait, you just updated. Okay, you got the news too. =)

When I heard about the news in Malang, I was with a bunch of friends. A friend of mine from Malang showed us the paper and we were all in shock of what happened and that such scuffles have to result in a death. What does blowing oneself prove? *sigh* It’s not fair this has to happen. We can say, ‘But that’s life.’ — but is that really what we want? To accept that life is really like that?

Yang mati tu stuntman nya azahari ,geblek.From Yudha Pranatha 3 Smp Xa LLG

I could have sworn that I wrote a comment about this entry earlier today. The comment’s gone for some reason. *shrug* Oh well.

I just read earlier that the wife of Azahari has already accepted his death and said his going was the “will of Allah”. I really don’t know what to make of that.

Fundamentalists. *sighs and shakes head in dismay*

The first time I heard of this, I was with a bunch of friends. One of my friends is from Malang and it struck her particularly hard. She’s Catholic, like me, but I guess it was the fact that it was in her hometown.

It’s really unfair these things have to happen. All those who want peace all want these things to stop, but the answer to how it can be stopped is still something that is explainable but seemingly unattainable because of the stubbornness of people. People tend to say, “Well, that’s life.”.. but is it, really? Is life really all about a person blowing themself up and a scuffle that ended in injury and even death? It’s sad. =(

I hope you’ve been well, Oskar, in spite of this happening.

@Yudha: Well hello there

@Marz: I don’t know… probably it’s caught by my anti-spam system? Well anyway, I think the term fundamentalist is overrated. Substantially (heck, I use this word alot lately), fundamentalist means “to go back to the root”. And surely, that’s not the root of Islam. It’s not Islam at all frankly.

And the best (and easiest plus lamest) excuse a human can get is by naming God in everything s/he do. It’s just outright idiotic.

Geez… so much to write… Hm, I’ll write about this later.

Oh plus, thanks for asking. I’m pretty fine actually :). And I hope before I die, I can do something to make the world a better place (duh! cliche…)

Sekarang hrs diperjelas siapa saja yang di door di batu malang itu? dan perlu penjelasan resmi dari aparat pemerintah. Biar semuanya jelas. Yang salah itu perbuatannya, kalau Dr Azahari itu kan manusia juga.

Another definition of ‘fundamentalist’ is that the sacred texts and teachings are assumed to be understood fully by any lay person that can lay their hands on them and because of that, can be taken literally.

Then again, that’s through the context of my religion, so I don’t know if it works for other religions. Maybe it does.

Maybe that is the definition of ‘fundamentalist’ that these people who misconstrue Islam (or any religion as a use of the betterment of society, for that matter) to do those heinous acts.

Just a thought. =)

It is indeed different!

Take a look at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist

The catholic description of fundamentalism is exactly how you describes it (going to your parish church often I suppose? hehe). But the meaning of fundamentalist in islam (according to Wikipedia) is restricting ones way of life according to Hadith and Sunnah.

So it’s pretty hard to speak about fundamentalism cross-religion because apparently each religion has a different interpretations. So that’s my definition of fundamentalist.

It’s different, yes, but when you extrapolate the information, you realize that fundamentalism entails a rejection of something and a restriction of certain ways and doctrines, regardless of religion. Literal interpretations reject the spiritual and the notion of mystery and restrictions to ways of life closes one off to other possibilities of things.

I guess all in all, the people who involve themselves in heinous acts go beyond the definition of fundamentalism.. but are just wanting to take religion into their own hands and twist it into ways that they find appealing, even if it doesn’t adhere to the real religion itself.
=)

I think my comment is getting caught by your spam system again.. =/

It’s different, yes, but when you extrapolate the information, you realize that fundamentalism entails a rejection of something and a restriction of certain ways and doctrines, regardless of religion. Literal interpretations reject the spiritual and the notion of mystery and restrictions to ways of life closes one off to other possibilities of things.

I guess all in all, the people who involve themselves in heinous acts go beyond the definition of fundamentalism.. but are just wanting to take religion into their own hands and twist it into ways that they find appealing, even if it doesn’t adhere to the real religion itself.
=)

hummm…
the discussions between oz and marz are quite interesting but i caouldn’t fully understand it. sorry.
i need to upgrade my vocabulary understanding (???)…sighs…

seven: me neither… *sigh* i’m still stressed out with the exams.. and suddenly i read that.. oh it makes me moreeee confused :D

@Marz: Yes I agree that they go beyond those definitions all together. They are not fundamentalist, they are simply mad. But I do wanted to know their real reason on why they do that. It’s always interest me to see both sides of the world.

@seven: Well I’m not that good either. Cross-check with a dictionary often

@amalia: Well how’s your exam?

@Marz: Hm… I just realized that your comment is indeed caught by my anti-spam system… that’s weird actually because it’s using a learning method so once I check the un-spam box, the system will learn from it and not making the same mistakes…

Wonder why…

There’s also one comment in Quadza website that has this kind of issues but when I investigate it, the poster puts more than 2 links on the comment (and it automatically blocks it).

my math exam was terrible!! ah.. forget it.. :P how come you haven’t update ur blog? u’ve been busy lately?

me too!
my exam was terrible!
yo dude…*pointing* there’s a request to update your blog.
LOL

:)

Sebenarnya dalang Teroris di Indonesia itu masih Hidup. Dalangnya lagi bingung untuk pengganti Dr. Azahari. Skenario penangkapan Azhari Cs ” Full Of Joke “.
1. Opini Saya Sebelum Azahari CS di Kepung, batu - Malang. Dr. Azahari Sudah ditangkap terlebih dahulu, kemudian baru dibuat skenario penangkapan Seolah - olah POLRI ( Detasemen 88 ) benar2 Fight untuk melumpuhkan Azahari CS, agar dimata Internasional POLRI mendapat Puja - Puji.
2. Arman yang meledakan BOM di Villa Flamboyan kenapa tidak dari awal meledakan Bom ( Suicide Bom ) pada saat dikepung dari awal oleh Detasemen 88, malah sempat keluar dan menembakan M - 16 ke arah Polisi terlebih dahulu. Logikanya kalau arman meledakan Bom didalam rumah kan jasad mereka lebuh tak di kenali.?????????
3. Azahari sebelumnya sudah menyerah,tetapi malah di Tembak, ada apa ini sebenarnya ?????
4. pada saat azahari Cs sudah ditangkap kenapa Noordin M Top dilepas, apa sengaja untuk di jadikan PR Detasemen 88, jadi seolah - olah mereka Memang Hebat … Salut untuk Bpk Moris Mere & Selamat untuk kenaikan Pangkatnya…. TANYA KENAPA ????

Ayo mari kita tanya sama - sama :)

Mas, bikin blog deh biar asik ;)

kita serahkan pada Yang Maha Kuasa aj

ya semoga saja terorisme di indonesia bisa segera diberantas demi kemajuan dan kesejahteraan bangsa indonesia

klo kasus2 besar kayak ini kebanyakan dijadikan ajang tuk menaikkan pangkat oleh para atasan polri,dari dulu sampek sekarang kasus2 besar seperti ini gak pernah jela seperti disengaja dijadikan permainan bg yg membutuhkan pangkat,



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